Strange abandoned buildings

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Strange abandoned buildings
« on: May 26, 2024, 11:58:53 AM »

https://urbexhub.com/the-art-deco-cult-house/


I know the location of this place, but by who and for what purpose it was built is a mystery.
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Re: Strange abandoned buildings
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2024, 12:33:01 PM »
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Re: Strange abandoned buildings
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2024, 12:35:53 PM »

Ah yes. The folly of Nicholas van Hoogstraaten, the landlord from hell. Apparently in Zimbabwe now.
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Re: Strange abandoned buildings
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2024, 12:39:10 PM »

Ah yes. The folly of Nicholas van Hoogstraaten, the landlord from hell. Apparently in Zimbabwe now.

I don't know why he doesn't just finish it, the exterior already looks finished.  If he doesn't want to live there anymore then he could sell it on to an Arab for megabucks.
 
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Re: Strange abandoned buildings
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2024, 04:35:38 PM »

https://urbexhub.com/the-art-deco-cult-house/


I know the location of this place, but by who and for what purpose it was built is a mystery.

Well that is....different.  Imagine what a conversation would be like with the guy who was having that place built. 



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Re: Strange abandoned buildings
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2024, 04:50:42 PM »
My grandmothers guest house in Dublin was recently taken by the City of Dublin and added to their Derelict properties register. Unfortunately, my mothers side of the family has a history of mental illness, and three of her four children (including my mother) had psychological trauma from their upbringing, and when my grandmother died, none of them were able/willing to take care of the property. They spent three decades fighting over it, but never moving on it, and eventually there was a fire due to bad maintenance and it was finally condemned. Meanwhile, the grandchildren, including myself, have been trying to get the city to take over the property and restore it.

So, now that the city has ownership, I'm confident it will be restored.

It certainly counts as a strange abandoned building. It has 11 bedrooms, four bathrooms, three living rooms, a restaurant kitchen, a family kitchen, a dumbwaiter, horse stables and what used to be a secret entrance. It was used by the IRA as a safehouse during the War of Irish Independence (1919-21), and for several years it was a literary hub, with men like WB Yeats, James Joyce, Sean O Casey being frequent guests. Sinn Fein was founded by Arthur Griffith, who used the house as a meeting place in the early days.

Neither I nor my family have any financial interest in the property anymore, so I'm just glad the city now owns it and can restore it.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3552625,-6.2643312,3a,75y,246.2h,105.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTJbb8QxXTshQaJ0e3H_KzA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
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Re: Strange abandoned buildings
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2024, 04:56:42 PM »
Very interesting, Codeguy.

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Re: Strange abandoned buildings
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2024, 05:28:03 PM »
Very interesting indeed.  I assume its the building with graffiti and boarded up windows.  Not seeing any horse stables though.



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Re: Strange abandoned buildings
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2024, 05:32:47 PM »
Very interesting indeed.  I assume its the building with graffiti and boarded up windows.  Not seeing any horse stables though.
Yup that’s the one - the stables are in the back and of course are now used anymore


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Re: Strange abandoned buildings
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2024, 05:40:36 PM »
Very interesting indeed.  I assume its the building with graffiti and boarded up windows.  Not seeing any horse stables though.
Yup that’s the one - the stables are in the back and of course are now used anymore


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Re: Strange abandoned buildings
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2024, 11:45:05 AM »
My grandmothers guest house in Dublin was recently taken by the City of Dublin and added to their Derelict properties register. Unfortunately, my mothers side of the family has a history of mental illness, and three of her four children (including my mother) had psychological trauma from their upbringing, and when my grandmother died, none of them were able/willing to take care of the property. They spent three decades fighting over it, but never moving on it, and eventually there was a fire due to bad maintenance and it was finally condemned. Meanwhile, the grandchildren, including myself, have been trying to get the city to take over the property and restore it.

So, now that the city has ownership, I'm confident it will be restored.

It certainly counts as a strange abandoned building. It has 11 bedrooms, four bathrooms, three living rooms, a restaurant kitchen, a family kitchen, a dumbwaiter, horse stables and what used to be a secret entrance. It was used by the IRA as a safehouse during the War of Irish Independence (1919-21), and for several years it was a literary hub, with men like WB Yeats, James Joyce, Sean O Casey being frequent guests. Sinn Fein was founded by Arthur Griffith, who used the house as a meeting place in the early days.

Neither I nor my family have any financial interest in the property anymore, so I'm just glad the city now owns it and can restore it.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3552625,-6.2643312,3a,75y,246.2h,105.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTJbb8QxXTshQaJ0e3H_KzA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I don't want to be a Debbie downer, but couldn't the state end up turning it into a homeless hostel? There's quite a few in that area of the city. Mind you even if they did they would have to do it up and renovate it to some extent, so it least it would be of use to someone. But it seems it is historically of interest so maybe it is considered a listed building? Anyway as you are no doubt aware, Georgian buildings are practically sacred in Dublin so it won't be knocked down and turned into a skyscraper by a developer (by Irish standards. Skyscrapers here are anything over 10 stories, lol.)

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Re: Strange abandoned buildings
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2024, 11:47:05 AM »
Very interesting indeed.  I assume its the building with graffiti and boarded up windows.  Not seeing any horse stables though.
Yup that’s the one - the stables are in the back and of course are now used anymore


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I think I'm correct in saying that in that area quite a few of the houses would originally have had stables. and also the Georgian buildings in the likes of Mountjoy Square and Frederick Street were originally in what was considered the posher part of town, whereas these days it is the south side equivalent, Fitzwillam Square and the like that are more valuable.

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Re: Strange abandoned buildings
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2024, 11:56:34 AM »
The house has its own Wiki article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Stad

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Re: Strange abandoned buildings
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2024, 02:19:30 PM »
Very interesting indeed.  I assume its the building with graffiti and boarded up windows.  Not seeing any horse stables though.
Yup that’s the one - the stables are in the back and of course are now used anymore


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I think I'm correct in saying that in that area quite a few of the houses would originally have had stables. and also the Georgian buildings in the likes of Mountjoy Square and Frederick Street were originally in what was considered the posher part of town, whereas these days it is the south side equivalent, Fitzwillam Square and the like that are more valuable.

Yes, originally the entire row had stables, kept below ground level so that ground level gardens could be grown. The Back yard had a below-ground-level path to get horses in and out, with the basement layer used for work-related functions, like laundry, cooking, etc., and then the dumbwaiter used to elevate everything.

Incidentally, the well-known-in-Ireland event where Bono took copies of Japanese child art from the Nuclear bombings and displayed them in the Grapevine arts center, was next door to this house, and by coincidence my entire family was there and we got to meet the B man over the pointed wrought iron fence in the back yard. June 1985. 
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Re: Strange abandoned buildings
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2024, 02:34:51 PM »
Incidentally, the well-known-in-Ireland event where Bono took copies of Japanese child art from the Nuclear bombings and displayed them in the Grapevine arts center, was next door to this house, and by coincidence my entire family was there and we got to meet the B man over the pointed wrought iron fence in the back yard. June 1985.

I'm not sure that event is well-known in Ireland tbh. I remember you wrote an essay about it on this very site and it was the first I'd heard of it.

But interesting that Bono was advancing his career off of human misery at a relatively young stage in U2's career. But of course this is a man who used to mime shooting up heroin on stage while never partaking of the substance.