Band At War: Motley Crue's Mick Mars Sues Bandmates, Exposes Secrets

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In the U2 section there was a lot of discussion as to what Larry would be entitled to if he left the band. I find this very interesting as it has to do with what happens when a member of a big band retires. I also find it interesting from a business sense as about a decade ago a company I co-founded had a bunch of inner turmoil, with one of the principals trying to get 2 other principals out (there were 5 principals in total).

Here is the Coles Notes version of what's going on. Motley Crue are a veteran hard rock band that isn't active as a recording artist but just co-headlined a stadium tour with Def Leppard last year that grossed $174 million. They are back doing a stadium tour of South America and Europe this year. After lasts years tour guitarist Mick Mars, who is a decade older than the rest of the band and has a muscular disease he's been fighting for ages, released a statement that he's retiring from touring but will still be involved in albums. The band then released a statement saying he was retired from the band. Yesterday Mars filed a lawsuit against the band.

Mick Mars

- claims he only wanted to retire from touring but still be involved in other aspects of the band including recording
- claims that the band has many registered companies and wants a full investigation to what the real numbers are
- claims the band has been putting down his playing for a long time and trying to make him a scapegoat, but he can still play all the songs
- claims that the band has offered him a severance of 7.5% from this tour instead of his regular 25% and nothing from further tours. He will still receive payment for any merchandise with his image but nothing from any other merch.
- claims that there is multiple similar scenarios from other bands where a member leaves but still holds his shares
- claims that the band on the last tour were piping in taped parts, which he didn't want to do.

Motley Crue

- claim that once he retired from touring, he retired from the band. As they do not record anymore there is no other aspects other than touring
- claim that if he doesn't tour, he should not be entitled to be part of the band and shouldn't be a shareholder. They claim that in 2009 they all signed a document that if they retire they give up their shares.
- claim that they offered a fair severance and that Mars had taken millions in advances that he never paid back
- claim that his playing was a liability. He was missing cues, playing the wrong notes, etc.. They have written statements from 7 tour personal that his playing was below standard.
- claim this is all driven by greed from his lawyer and manager and that they still love him
« Last Edit: April 08, 2023, 02:19:44 AM by So Cruel »
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Re: Band At War: Motley Crue's Mick Mars Sues Bandmates, Exposes Secrets
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2023, 11:39:30 AM »
Pink Floyd's 1987 settlement awarded Roger Waters a half-share in all future PF endeavours. What that means is that all net proceeds are divided 7 ways, with Gilmour, Mason, and Wright (now his estate) each getting 2 of those 7 and Waters getting one.

MC had better have that 2009 document, and it had better say exactly what they claim it says...then again, aren't all contracts signed in CA void after 7 years? Either way, they're idiots if they think they're going to walk away without giving Mars anything.
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Re: Band At War: Motley Crue's Mick Mars Sues Bandmates, Exposes Secrets
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2023, 12:49:58 PM »
Ya, I know Steve Perry from Journey is still a major shareholder in the group and makes a lot of money from them even though he hasn't toured with them in years.

The Mars vs Crue case will be interesting. If he did sign a document and took millions in advances that hasn't been paid back then they likely have a case. If not they'll have to put forward a lot better severance package than 7.5% of this tour to buy him out.
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Re: Band At War: Motley Crue's Mick Mars Sues Bandmates, Exposes Secrets
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2023, 12:53:02 AM »
i couldn't care less about MC but i will say when i saw them in 2012 with KISS, it was insultingly obvious that Vince Neil wasn't singing the choruses in many of the songs.

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Re: Band At War: Motley Crue's Mick Mars Sues Bandmates, Exposes Secrets
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2023, 05:56:17 AM »
i couldn't care less about MC but i will say when i saw them in 2012 with KISS, it was insultingly obvious that Vince Neil wasn't singing the choruses in many of the songs.



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Re: Band At War: Motley Crue's Mick Mars Sues Bandmates, Exposes Secrets
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2023, 11:17:16 AM »
Hahahaha! Yes he was the "sex symbol" and his younger self was the vocalist