U2: Songs Of Surrender - sales and chart positions worldwide

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U2: Songs Of Surrender - sales and chart positions worldwide
« on: March 27, 2023, 10:27:08 AM »
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U2ís Songs of Surrender debuts at No. 5 on the Billboard 200 with 46,500 equivalent album units earned. Of that sum, album sales comprise 42,000, Streaming Equivalent Album units comprise 4,000 equaling 4.99 million on-demand official streams of the setís tracks) and Track Equivalent Album units comprise 500. The retrospective re-records project is available in multiple editions, including a standard 16-track edition, a 20-track deluxe and a 40-track super deluxe (with the latter divided into four 10-track chapters named after each band member: Bono, Adam Clayton, The Edge and Larry Mullen Jr.). Sales were also aided by a dozen vinyl variants of the album, including exclusive editions sold by Amazon, Target and independent retailers.

U2 is the fourth group to achieve a newly-charting top 10 album on the Billboard 200 chart in the 1980s, Ď90s, 2000s, Ď10s and now the Ď20s. The quartet joins AC/DC, Def Leppard and Metallica.



So, #5 chart position in the United States with 42,000 copies sold. An additional 4,500 Streaming and Track Equivalent album sales. It takes several thousand streams to equal one album sale on the Billboard 200 and 10 individual track downloads to equal on album sale. So 90% of the sales activity for the album come from old traditional album purchases, physical or digital. Only 10% of the activity comes from streaming or the downloading of individual tracks.

For RIAA purposes in the United States, U2 would need to sell 125,000 copies of the 4 CD boxed set album package to get a Gold Record album award.

Songs Of Surrender first week chart positions in other countries around the world:

Australia - #3
Belgium - #1
Czech Republic - #15
Netherlands - #1
Finland - #29
France - #2
Germany - #1
Ireland - #1
Italy - #1
Japan - #15
New Zealand - #8
Norway - #12
Sweden - #24
Switzerland - #1
United Kingdom - #1
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2023, 10:32:53 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2023, 10:45:32 AM »
I always said the English were thick. I bet no one brought it in Wales.
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Re: U2: Songs Of Surrender - sales and chart positions worldwide
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2023, 11:01:27 AM »
"So 90% of the sales activity for the album come from old traditional album purchases, physical or digital. Only 10% of the activity comes from streaming or the downloading of individual tracks".......

So u2's stuck in their ways, loyal, old fanbase have gone out and bought the record albeit in pretty low numbers, but where the 'conversation' is really happening, where music is mostly digested now and where that elusive audience u2 so desperately want are, this record has performed pretty miserably.

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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2023, 11:22:40 AM »
Good stuff, thanks wons.

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Re: U2: Songs Of Surrender - sales and chart positions worldwide
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2023, 12:01:30 PM »
"So 90% of the sales activity for the album come from old traditional album purchases, physical or digital. Only 10% of the activity comes from streaming or the downloading of individual tracks".......

So u2's stuck in their ways, loyal, old fanbase have gone out and bought the record albeit in pretty low numbers, but where the 'conversation' is really happening, where music is mostly digested now and where that elusive audience u2 so desperately want are, this record has performed pretty miserably.
That describes every new u2 release since NLOTH


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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2023, 12:48:37 PM »
U2's YouTube page has got 2.68M subscribers but WoWY has only got 383K views in the past two months.  The Fly has only 53K views in the past 11 days.  Even the fans aren't biting.
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2023, 02:33:26 PM »
U2's YouTube page has got 2.68M subscribers but WoWY has only got 383K views in the past two months.  The Fly has only 53K views in the past 11 days.  Even the fans aren't biting.

Which leads to the question many of us had, what was the point? These songs existed and people werenít asking for piano versions.
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2023, 02:36:56 PM »
Plus, given the nature of this "new album" the sales are more comparable to ticket sales for a greatest hits tour than sales of an album of new studio material. It means U2 is still popular among their casual and hardcore fans, but it doesn't mean they are broadly relevant.
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Re: U2: Songs Of Surrender - sales and chart positions worldwide
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2023, 04:06:45 PM »
The pretty expensive and OTT advertising campaigns look a bit silly if those numbers don't pick up massively.

They are picking up next to no new ears and the old ones who are hooked anyway (the diehards) are always going to be there of course but in ever decreasing numbers.

This is of course all totally normal for an act of u2's age and for how long been around etc - it would all just be more appropriate and dignified if they just accepted it and cut out all the crap - i mean what the actual fuck was all that billboard stuff for - it literally has zero effect, so why do it, it looks desperate and needy.

You've made hundreds and hundreds of millions of the almighty dollar, you have a legacy, you have a big diehard fanbase who will buy the sound of you farting and scratching your arses - just leave all the being relevant and in the conversation stuff alone eh.

This album of "re-imagined" songs was one you could and for me should have given away to those diehard fans - trying to launch it to the world as if it is 1988 - with song lyrics on 50 ft high boards all over the world as if the world is awaiting with baited breath what comes next after TJT is so out of touch with reality and what people want to see it is sad.



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Re: U2: Songs Of Surrender - sales and chart positions worldwide
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2023, 04:29:36 PM »
"So 90% of the sales activity for the album come from old traditional album purchases, physical or digital. Only 10% of the activity comes from streaming or the downloading of individual tracks".......

So u2's stuck in their ways, loyal, old fanbase have gone out and bought the record albeit in pretty low numbers, but where the 'conversation' is really happening, where music is mostly digested now and where that elusive audience u2 so desperately want are, this record has performed pretty miserably.

For the United States Billboard 200 album chart, you can have the #1 album with all of your "sales activity" coming from streaming.

U2 hit #5 on the Billboard 200 this week, but the #1 album on the Billboard 200 this week was Morgan Wallen's "One Thing At A Time". It only sold 12,830 albums through album purchases of physical or digital product. But it did 195,000+ when it came to STREAMING EQUIVALENT ALBUMS sold and about 3,000 for Track Equivalent Albums sold. So, Morgan Wallen's album got 93% of its points from streaming, the opposite of U2.

Either way, considering most music listeners just stream their music as opposed to purchasing music and the music charts have adjusted to reflect that, the fact that U2 can penetrate the chart hitting #5 based on 90%+ music purchases as opposed to streaming is impressive.

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Re: U2: Songs Of Surrender - sales and chart positions worldwide
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2023, 04:32:35 PM »
"So 90% of the sales activity for the album come from old traditional album purchases, physical or digital. Only 10% of the activity comes from streaming or the downloading of individual tracks".......

So u2's stuck in their ways, loyal, old fanbase have gone out and bought the record albeit in pretty low numbers, but where the 'conversation' is really happening, where music is mostly digested now and where that elusive audience u2 so desperately want are, this record has performed pretty miserably.

For the United States Billboard 200 album chart, you can have the #1 album with all of your "sales activity" coming from streaming.

U2 hit #5 on the Billboard 200 this week, but the #1 album on the Billboard 200 this week was Morgan Wallen's "One Thing At A Time". It only sold 12,830 albums through album purchases of physical or digital product. But it did 195,000+ when it came to STREAMING EQUIVALENT ALBUMS sold and about 3,000 for Track Equivalent Albums sold. So, Morgan Wallen's album got 93% of its points from streaming, the opposite of U2.

Either way, considering most music listeners just stream their music as opposed to purchasing music and the music charts have adjusted to reflect that, the fact that U2 can penetrate the chart hitting #5 based on 90%+ music purchases as opposed to streaming is impressive.

Hardcore fans will spend the money to own a copy/copies and U2 have a big fanbase built up over several decades which they're now cashing in on.   
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Re: U2: Songs Of Surrender - sales and chart positions worldwide
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2023, 04:33:08 PM »
Youíll like this, wons

https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1640094013020598272?s=61&t=xTeqGpGpjkxH_9_aKRc3ow

Wow, that picture of Metallica is ancient. Must be from 1981 or early 1982.

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Re: U2: Songs Of Surrender - sales and chart positions worldwide
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2023, 04:35:53 PM »
U2's YouTube page has got 2.68M subscribers but WoWY has only got 383K views in the past two months.  The Fly has only 53K views in the past 11 days.  Even the fans aren't biting.

Which leads to the question many of us had, what was the point? These songs existed and people werenít asking for piano versions.

Its U2's unplugged album. U2 never did MTV's unplugged back in the 1990s.