The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament - Rd 1 Fixture 8

Rd 1 - Fixture 8...The last fixture of the 1st Rd.

Kanye West v Pixies

Poll will be open for 5 days - all fixtures will run for 5 days.

Who do you prefer?

Vote away.

Jesus

Jesus

…and Moses and David

Neither deserve to be here so not voting

Ugh.

Pixies

Ye

Ye ah

Where Is My Mind?

A year ago I might have voted differently...

Neither deserve to be here so not voting

yup.  how does this competition get formulated?  an tha?

Quote from: So Cruel on February 28, 2023, 02:03:13 PM

Neither deserve to be here so not voting

yup.  how does this competition get formulated?  an tha?

From the original thread that launched it:

OK so - a bit of fun...putting it in here rather than tournament/general area to start off with as this section gets more traffic/views.

Going to run a best act tournament.

24 acts will compete and the structure is as follows.

The Top 20 acts from the website besteveralbums.com top artists chart will line up with 4 wildcard acts to be selected via nominations here.

The Top 8 from the besteveralbums.com websbite top artists chart will be the "seeds" and will start in Round 2.

The artists ranked 9-20 in that list and the 4 wildcard acts will start in Round 1 with the winners of those 8 match ups joining the 8 seeds in Round 2.

The top-ranked artists that appear most prominently in over 49,000 greatest album charts on BestEverAlbums.com make up their top artists list.

The Top 20 artists on the besteverlabums.com site as per the list in the link below are:

https://www.besteveralbums.com/bandstats.php

Top 8 Seeds - Enter in Round 2.

1. The Beatles
2. Radiohead
3. Pink Floyd
4. David Bowie
5. Bob Dylan
6. Led Zeppelin
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Arcade Fire

9-20 - Enter in Round 1.

9. The Velvet Underground
10. Nirvana
11. Kendrick Lamar
12. The Smiths
13. Neil Young
14. Miles Davis
15. The Beach Boys
16. Kanye West
17. Pixies
18. Jimi Hendrix
19. Bruce Springsteen
20. R.E.M.

4 Talku2 wildcards - Enter in Round 1.

21. TBC
22. TBC
23. TBC
24. TBC


You can start nominating for the 4 wildcard places in this thread maximum of 3 nominations per member.

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Then after the nominations for the 4 wildcards were sorted the draw etc was put up as follows:

U2
The Cure
The Smashing Pumpkins
The Police


Are the 4 wildcard picks!!

They will take up positions 21-24 on the list and enter the comp in the first round with numbers 9-20.

1st Rd Entrants:


9. The Velvet Underground
10. Nirvana
11. Kendrick Lamar
12. The Smiths
13. Neil Young
14. Miles Davis
15. The Beach Boys
16. Kanye West
17. Pixies
18. Jimi Hendrix
19. Bruce Springsteen
20. R.E.M.
21. U2
22. The Cure
23. The Smashing Pumpkins
24. The Police

1st Rd Fixtures

The Velvet Underground v The Police
Nirvana v The Smashing Pumpkins
Kendrick Lamar v The Cure
The Smiths v U2
Neil Young v R.E.M.
Miles Davis v Bruce Springsteen
The Beach Boys v Jimi Hendrix
Kanye West v Pixies

A reminder that the Top 8 seeds enter in Rd 2 and face the 8 Rd 1 tie winners.

Top 8 seeds:


Top 8 Seeds - Enter in Round 2.

1. The Beatles
2. Radiohead
3. Pink Floyd
4. David Bowie
5. Bob Dylan
6. Led Zeppelin
7. The Rolling Stones
8. Arcade Fire

The draw for 2nd Rd is as follows (based on seedings)

The Beatles (1) v Kanye West or Pixies

Arcade Fire (8.) v The Velvet Underground or The Police

David Bowie (4) v Neil Young or R.E.M.

Bob Dylan (5) v The Smiths or U2

Radiohead (2) v The Beach Boys or Jimi Hendrix

The Rolling Stones (7) v Nirvana or Smashing Pumpkins

Pink Floyd (3) v Miles Davis or Bruce Springsteen

Led Zeppelin (6) v Kendrick Lamar or The Cure

People are always going to complain about artists they think are shit making lists and so on, and of course people have different tastes but looking across a large number of music sites and in particular sites that aggregate thousands upon thousands of 'best' lists, from critical sources and Joe Public - there is a pretty high level of consensus when it comes to the names at or near the top of lists.

The source I used for this comp aggregates over 49,000 best album lists and ranks artists by how often and where they appear in lists.

Another site called acclaimedmusic:

Acclaimed Music is a website created by Henrik Franzon, a statistician from Stockholm, Sweden in September 2001. Franzon has statistically aggregated hundreds of published lists that rank songs and albums into aggregated rankings by year, decade and all-time.

The site besteveralbums does a similar thing - there are thousands of lists on there by genre, decade, overall etc and from those lists all time artist and album and song lists exist from over 50,000 lists.

You can look up an artist and see how they fare with scores aggregated from thousands of reviews across their discography.

rateyourmusic is another source that does a similar job - there are 3m reviews on site and over half a million lists...

Here is the u2 artist page from that site:

https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/u2

It is all well and good saying Kanye West "does not belong" in this comp - but he features in top end of rankings across all these sites...as do all the entrants in this comp.

Here for example is a different list to one I pulled from - Top 50 artists list aggregated from sites like i mention above.

1   The Beatles
2   Bob Dylan
3   The Rolling Stones
4   David Bowie
5   Bruce Springsteen
6   Radiohead
7   Neil Young
8   Led Zeppelin
9   Prince
10   The Beach Boys
11   R.E.M.
12   Elvis Presley
13   Kanye West
14   The Who
15   U2
16   Miles Davis
17   The Velvet Underground
18   Nirvana
19   The Clash
20   Jimi Hendrix
21   Marvin Gaye
22   Pink Floyd
23   Elvis Costello
24   Stevie Wonder
25   Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
26   Madonna
27   Bob Marley and The Wailers
28   The Smiths
29   Michael Jackson
30   Van Morrison
31   Talking Heads
32   Kendrick Lamar
33   Arcade Fire
34   Aretha Franklin
35   Björk
36   Jay-Z
37   James Brown
38   Tom Waits
39   John Coltrane
40   PJ Harvey
41   The Kinks
42   Public Enemy
43   The Byrds
44   Beastie Boys
45   Joni Mitchell
46   Beck
47   The Cure
48   John Lennon
49   The Doors
50   LCD Soundsystem

People need to keep in mind that these lists are purely subjective. It's all based on what you like, as there's no right or wrong answer. It's not meant to be taken too seriously.