The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament Discussion Thread

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The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament Discussion Thread
« on: February 19, 2023, 08:08:36 PM »
Not really impressed with that list. It seems they don't like American music or hard rock.

Acts that I think should be on there, well ahead of bans like Arcade Fire and others

1. The Who - Iconic band. How could they not be there?
2. Iron Maiden - been selling out arenas and stadiums world wide for years yet don't recognized cause they are metal
3. The Doors - legendary
4. INXS - lots of great albums
5. Aerosmith - have sold more albums then most on that list
6. Van Halen - see above
7. Pearl Jam - best act of the 90's
8. CCR - tons of hits for a band that wasn't around long
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Re: The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2023, 08:33:49 PM »
Not really impressed with that list. It seems they don't like American music or hard rock.

Acts that I think should be on there, well ahead of bans like Arcade Fire and others

1. The Who - Iconic band. How could they not be there?
2. Iron Maiden - been selling out arenas and stadiums world wide for years yet don't recognized cause they are metal
3. The Doors - legendary
4. INXS - lots of great albums
5. Aerosmith - have sold more albums then most on that list
6. Van Halen - see above
7. Pearl Jam - best act of the 90's
8. CCR - tons of hits for a band that wasn't around long

1. No.22
2. No.90
3. No.25
4. No.409
5. No.225
6. No.203
7. No.51
8. No.114

All respectable placings when consider how many acts there are across time.

No list is going to please everyone.

Hence my wildcard picks idea.

I'd argue for example as strongly for The Cure as you would Iron Maiden and so on. Cure are No.28

I'd argue to the death for PJ Harvey who on the list comes in at No.109

And of course people will say 'what no u2'....No.24 is the answer.

Half the top 20 are American!

I think a source that pulls from 50,000 lists is a decent one and no list will please everyone.

Nominate away for those wildcard picks.
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Re: The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2023, 03:56:44 AM »
My 4 wild cards

1. Iron Maiden
2. The Who
3. The Doors
4. INXS

From the O.P.

You can start nominating for the 4 wildcard places in this thread maximum of 3 nominations per member
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Re: The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2023, 07:55:08 AM »
Not really impressed with that list. It seems they don't like American music or hard rock.

Acts that I think should be on there, well ahead of bans like Arcade Fire and others

1. The Who - Iconic band. How could they not be there?
2. Iron Maiden - been selling out arenas and stadiums world wide for years yet don't recognized cause they are metal
3. The Doors - legendary
4. INXS - lots of great albums
5. Aerosmith - have sold more albums then most on that list
6. Van Halen - see above
7. Pearl Jam - best act of the 90's
8. CCR - tons of hits for a band that wasn't around long


I think a source that pulls from 50,000 lists is a decent one and no list will please everyone.

Nominate away for those wildcard picks.

I'm sorry but this website is not accurate gauge of anything. Radiohead at #2 with Bryan Adams at #908!?

If I stood in Time Square in New York City, and polled a thousand people passing through, the majority would be able to name multiple Bryan Adams songs. Only a small minority would be able to name ONE Radiohead song, CREEP. An even smaller minority might be able to name a Radiohead song other than Creep.

I would suggest you just use list of people's favorite acts in the forum.   Certainly don't use something so grossly inaccurate as that website to create results.

As much as I love PJ Harvey, the overwhelming majority of music listeners are not even aware that she exists. So how could she be at #109, nearly in the top 100?
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Re: The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2023, 09:29:56 AM »
Who said it was an accurate representation of anything....apart from what it actually is:

"The top-ranked artists that appear most prominently in over 49,000 greatest album charts on BestEverAlbums.com"

Play the game, wons, don't play the game - I don't mind either way.

But the game has been laid out how the game will take place, using what has been clearly explained.

And in answer to your question at end of post - Because she features as the 109th most prominently ranked artist in over 49,000 greatest albums charts on the site besteveralbums.com.



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Re: The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2023, 09:55:45 AM »
My 4 wild cards

1. Iron Maiden
2. The Who
3. The Doors
4. INXS

Are U2 excluded from the tournament?
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Re: The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2023, 09:58:56 AM »
My 4 wild cards

1. Iron Maiden
2. The Who
3. The Doors
4. INXS

Are U2 excluded from the tournament?

No...but will need to be one of the 4 most nominated wildcards to make it in.

NB: People are to nominate 3 acts....The Top 4 based on nominations make the field.
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Re: The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2023, 11:20:51 AM »
Iíll nominate the elephant in the room.

U2
The Cure
Smashing Pumpkins.
+1 if U2 were not in there, Depeche are out

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Re: The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2023, 11:49:00 AM »
This list is apples and oranges. I'll pass.

I think it's interesting if we compare bands evolving in the same sonic spectrum at least... But I really don't get the concept of comparing Radiohead to Miles Davis to Bob Dylan to Kendrick Lamar. They all coexist.

But that's just me. Have fun !
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Re: The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2023, 12:14:31 PM »
It is problematic, but itís just for fun, nbd.

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Re: The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2023, 12:28:14 PM »
Who said it was an accurate representation of anything....apart from what it actually is:

"The top-ranked artists that appear most prominently in over 49,000 greatest album charts on BestEverAlbums.com"

Play the game, wons, don't play the game - I don't mind either way.

But the game has been laid out how the game will take place, using what has been clearly explained.

And in answer to your question at end of post - Because she features as the 109th most prominently ranked artist in over 49,000 greatest albums charts on the site besteveralbums.com.

Well, obviously I think you should be skeptical of the site besteveralbums.com. Most people who listen to music do not know PJ Harvey exists. That is just an indisputable fact based on her sales, and level of airplay and exposure to the wider world.

Why even use some site, just use the opinions of the people of the forum?

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Re: The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2023, 02:10:18 PM »
Who said it was an accurate representation of anything....apart from what it actually is:

"The top-ranked artists that appear most prominently in over 49,000 greatest album charts on BestEverAlbums.com"

Play the game, wons, don't play the game - I don't mind either way.

But the game has been laid out how the game will take place, using what has been clearly explained.

And in answer to your question at end of post - Because she features as the 109th most prominently ranked artist in over 49,000 greatest albums charts on the site besteveralbums.com.

Well, obviously I think you should be skeptical of the site besteveralbums.com. Most people who listen to music do not know PJ Harvey exists. That is just an indisputable fact based on her sales, and level of airplay and exposure to the wider world.

Why even use some site, just use the opinions of the people of the forum?
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Re: The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2023, 02:41:00 PM »
Who said it was an accurate representation of anything....apart from what it actually is:

"The top-ranked artists that appear most prominently in over 49,000 greatest album charts on BestEverAlbums.com"

Play the game, wons, don't play the game - I don't mind either way.

But the game has been laid out how the game will take place, using what has been clearly explained.

And in answer to your question at end of post - Because she features as the 109th most prominently ranked artist in over 49,000 greatest albums charts on the site besteveralbums.com.

Well, obviously I think you should be skeptical of the site besteveralbums.com. Most people who listen to music do not know PJ Harvey exists. That is just an indisputable fact based on her sales, and level of airplay and exposure to the wider world.

Why even use some site, just use the opinions of the people of the forum?

What on earth are you rattling on about

It is a website that has aggregated the results of 49,000 plus submitted best album lists to generate based on how promimently artists feature in those lists an artists ranking list.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Play the game, don't play - up to you...I am easy either way.

However in the interests of me being able to run an effective bit of a fun tournament - please stop posting in the thread unless it is to nominate as per the OP's instructions. Trying to pick out the nominees amongst endless posts of your whining is not something I wish to do.

Go and start a separate thread about the site besteveralbums.com if you wish to whine about the opinions on there/its lists.

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Re: The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2023, 03:04:37 PM »
The Cure
PJ Harvey
Joy Division

Maybe you have a potential conundrum here.

I see a nomination for New Order and you are nominating JD.

In light of the recent RHOF nominations, where both acts are considered the same (or NO being a continuation of JD), how will you deal with this?

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Re: The 2023 Talku2 Best Act Tournament
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2023, 03:16:59 PM »
The Cure
PJ Harvey
Joy Division

Maybe you have a potential conundrum here.

I see a nomination for New Order and you are nominating JD.

In light of the recent RHOF nominations, where both acts are considered the same (or NO being a continuation of JD), how will you deal with this?

 ;)

I'll just work out a simple formula based on concert attendances %'s of capacity of venue x award nominations x poll taken from 127 random strangers outside Manchester Piccadilly train station - plays of 2nd single on commercial radio ų mentions on the artisallaboutstats.com website x who monica, louise and nina at hooters has heard of most.....

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