Heartland on TJT

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Heartland on TJT
« on: March 21, 2021, 03:04:39 PM »
Heard that Heartland was recorded during TJT sessions.

Could it have been a twelth song?

For me it would have fitted in between the dark Exit and the mellow Mothers. Or after the up tempo RHMT.

Could it have replaced another song? Be serious, it's TJT!

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Re: Heartland on TJT
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2021, 03:32:00 PM »
Heard that Heartland was recorded during TJT sessions.

Could it have been a twelth song?

For me it would have fitted in between the dark Exit and the mellow Mothers. Or after the up tempo RHMT.

Could it have replaced another song? Be serious, it's TJT!

I LOVE Heartland for so many reasons. I think it could have fit on TJT somewhere (thematically it obviously would), but I don't think it should necessarily replace any JT songs. People sometimes nominate TTYW as a candidate for replacement, but I think that track brings some lightheartedness to the album.

As an aside, in my alt-U2niverse, the R&H album was an album consisting of unused JT studio tracks and studio tracks recorded during the JT tour. So my R&H playlist has no live songs, but it does include songs like Luminous Times, Heartland, and Hallelujah Here She Comes. Better that way.
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Re: Heartland on TJT
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2021, 03:50:40 PM »
Yes TTYW is worthy of a place on the album.

My alternative R & H would also have no live tracks. But back in 88, live albums were popular. Simple Minds released a double live album shortly before which was a big seller.

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Re: Heartland on TJT
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2021, 04:22:50 PM »
Yeah, it should have made the album, for sure.
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Re: Heartland on TJT
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2021, 05:35:20 PM »
Sweetest Thing could also have been on TJT.  Of course, it likely doesn't become known nearly as well as the released version ended up being.  There was really no need to replace anything on TJT though and Heartland fit in well on R&H.  Although U2 was obviously no stranger to albums with twelve tracks, those albums were all released post TJT.
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Re: Heartland on TJT
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2021, 05:59:08 PM »
I still think Hawkmoon should have been on TJT.
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Re: Heartland on TJT
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2021, 06:42:15 PM »
Neartland is the standout tune on R&H. I donít think it belongs on TJT though. In the same way luminous times and walk to the water donít.

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Re: Heartland on TJT
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2021, 06:01:51 AM »
I still think Hawkmoon should have been on TJT.

Was that recorded during TJT sessions?

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Re: Heartland on TJT
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2021, 06:07:03 AM »
Sweetest Thing could also have been on TJT.  Of course, it likely doesn't become known nearly as well as the released version ended up being.  There was really no need to replace anything on TJT though and Heartland fit in well on R&H.  Although U2 was obviously no stranger to albums with twelve tracks, those albums were all released post TJT.

Edge said he wished ST had been on JT.

For me the 98 version would suit it more. It would be harmless enough as a 12th song.  Not another Yahwah but the weakest song on the album.

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Re: Heartland on TJT
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2021, 06:10:00 AM »
Sweetest Thing could also have been on TJT.  Of course, it likely doesn't become known nearly as well as the released version ended up being.  There was really no need to replace anything on TJT though and Heartland fit in well on R&H.  Although U2 was obviously no stranger to albums with twelve tracks, those albums were all released post TJT.

Edge said he wished ST had been on JT.

For me the 98 version would suit it more. It would be harmless enough as a 12th song.  Not another Yahwah but the weakest song on the album.

I donít think either version of ST work for TJT. Itís too much of a novelty song for a fit.


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Re: Heartland on TJT
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2021, 06:10:47 AM »
Sweetest Thing could also have been on TJT.  Of course, it likely doesn't become known nearly as well as the released version ended up being.  There was really no need to replace anything on TJT though and Heartland fit in well on R&H.  Although U2 was obviously no stranger to albums with twelve tracks, those albums were all released post TJT.

Yes War & TUF were 10 tracks.

Maybe they thought jumping from 10 to 12 was too much, although they considered making TJT a double album.

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Re: Heartland on TJT
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2021, 06:39:45 AM »
Sweetest Thing could also have been on TJT.  Of course, it likely doesn't become known nearly as well as the released version ended up being.  There was really no need to replace anything on TJT though and Heartland fit in well on R&H.  Although U2 was obviously no stranger to albums with twelve tracks, those albums were all released post TJT.

Edge said he wished ST had been on JT.

For me the 98 version would suit it more. It would be harmless enough as a 12th song.  Not another Yahwah but the weakest song on the album.

I donít think either version of ST work for TJT. Itís too much of a novelty song for a fit.

Yes they didn't put it on any other albums either. Partly because it had already been a 1987 B side.

May have suited NLOTH or SOE. But the revamped version had already been a single. 

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Re: Heartland on TJT
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2021, 07:33:12 AM »
Sweetest Thing could also have been on TJT.  Of course, it likely doesn't become known nearly as well as the released version ended up being.  There was really no need to replace anything on TJT though and Heartland fit in well on R&H.  Although U2 was obviously no stranger to albums with twelve tracks, those albums were all released post TJT.

Yes War & TUF were 10 tracks.

Maybe they thought jumping from 10 to 12 was too much, although they considered making TJT a double album.

They certainly had enough quality material to release a 16 songs double LP.
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Re: Heartland on TJT
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2021, 11:01:19 AM »
Let's just accept The Joshua Tree as the masterpiece it is.  It couldn't have been improved upon.

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Re: Heartland on TJT
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2021, 11:22:21 AM »
Let's just accept The Joshua Tree as the masterpiece it is.  It couldn't have been improved upon.

One could remove ITTYWís and ISHFWILF.