Are you paying attention, u2?....

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Are you paying attention, u2?....
« on: June 19, 2020, 08:30:01 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53065380

The sentiment expressed at that start of this......

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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2020, 08:36:19 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53065380

The sentiment expressed at that start of this......
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Bowie’s blackstar album is the masterpiece late career classic U2 should strive to emulate.


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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2020, 03:12:47 AM »
This. Record an album without thinking of hits or touring it. They have enough songs to play live in their back catalogue.

First Dylan song even has the lyric “I sing the Songs of Experience, like William Blake”. It’s a sign!

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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2020, 03:16:40 AM »
It’s what they were meant to do with SoE. A couple of tracks succeed, but the rest were Tedder-ised.
The Edge: “[Eno] would love to see us making albums a bit more like [Zooropa]. Where we go, ‘You know what? We’re not going to second-guess any of this. Let’s just go for it.’”

U2 Fans: We'd all love to see that, Edge.

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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2020, 04:00:49 AM »
Yeah, could maybe have worked if you remove the clunkers, especially if you merge the last two albums into one and change to a much more raw production on the starred ones:

Love is all we have left*
Lights of home
Cedarwood road
Every breaking wave*
Summer of love*
Red flag day
Raised by wolves
Sleep like a baby
Little things
Troubles
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Not sure it’s Blackstar or You want it darker though...

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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2020, 04:49:50 AM »
Yeah, could maybe have worked if you remove the clunkers, especially if you merge the last two albums into one and change to a much more raw production on the starred ones:

Love is all we have left*
Lights of home
Cedarwood road
Every breaking wave*
Summer of love*
Red flag day
Raised by wolves
Sleep like a baby
Little things
Troubles
13

Not sure it’s Blackstar or You want it darker though...

That’s actually a pretty good track list!
The Edge: “[Eno] would love to see us making albums a bit more like [Zooropa]. Where we go, ‘You know what? We’re not going to second-guess any of this. Let’s just go for it.’”

U2 Fans: We'd all love to see that, Edge.

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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2020, 08:33:17 AM »
Yeah, could maybe have worked if you remove the clunkers, especially if you merge the last two albums into one and change to a much more raw production on the starred ones:

Love is all we have left*
Lights of home
Cedarwood road
Every breaking wave*
Summer of love*
Red flag day
Raised by wolves
Sleep like a baby
Little things
Troubles
13

Not sure it’s Blackstar or You want it darker though...

That’s actually a pretty good track list!

Book of Your Heart would fit nicely
First Chair. Last Call.

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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2020, 12:20:50 PM »
Yeah, could maybe have worked if you remove the clunkers, especially if you merge the last two albums into one and change to a much more raw production on the starred ones:

Love is all we have left*
Lights of home
Cedarwood road
Every breaking wave*
Summer of love*
Red flag day
Raised by wolves
Sleep like a baby
Little things
Troubles
13

Not sure it’s Blackstar or You want it darker though...

That’s actually a pretty good track list!

Book of Your Heart would fit nicely
Yes forgot that one, definitely fits!

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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2020, 03:59:50 PM »
"It's not trying to impress or please. There's no obvious attempt to mask a weary, limited voice or occasionally garbled words. The pill isn't being sugared. What's the point? Nobody wants to hear sweet talk from of septuagenarian."

This is very true.  That said, U2 haven't released their last album yet, so it's a little unfair to pass this judgement on them now.  Did anybody really care about the any of the albums Bowie released after 1990 other than Blackstar?  I have no idea whether any of those are any good.
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2020, 05:51:40 PM »
  Did anybody really care about the any of the albums Bowie released after 1990 other than Blackstar?

Er, yes, definitely.

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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2020, 07:03:44 PM »
"It's not trying to impress or please. There's no obvious attempt to mask a weary, limited voice or occasionally garbled words. The pill isn't being sugared. What's the point? Nobody wants to hear sweet talk from of septuagenarian."

This is very true.  That said, U2 haven't released their last album yet, so it's a little unfair to pass this judgement on them now.  Did anybody really care about the any of the albums Bowie released after 1990 other than Blackstar?  I have no idea whether any of those are any good.

Heathen in 2002 was pretty good and crtically acclaimed

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2020, 02:35:13 PM »
  Did anybody really care about the any of the albums Bowie released after 1990 other than Blackstar?

Er, yes, definitely.
Absolutely!

The next day might just be the best album of 2013.
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2020, 09:09:18 AM »
  Did anybody really care about the any of the albums Bowie released after 1990 other than Blackstar?

Er, yes, definitely.

I didn't even care about Blackstar. And I very much doubt it would have been called a masterpiece had Bowie not died. The simple fact is he hasn't made a great record since Scary Monsters. Although I do have a soft spot for Let's Dance. Beyond that, it's Bowie by numbers.

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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2020, 03:48:02 PM »
Could be that Blackstar got better reviews because Bowie died. But many of the artists mentioned that got good reviews for their latest records are/were still alive. I wish that U2 makes a record that is universally critically acclaimed before anyone in the band dies! They deserve it. Surely they have it in them if they stop chasing hits or songs that tour well. There are plenty of bright spots in the last 3 albums.

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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2020, 03:55:24 PM »
  Did anybody really care about the any of the albums Bowie released after 1990 other than Blackstar?

Er, yes, definitely.

I didn't even care about Blackstar. And I very much doubt it would have been called a masterpiece had Bowie not died. The simple fact is he hasn't made a great record since Scary Monsters. Although I do have a soft spot for Let's Dance. Beyond that, it's Bowie by numbers.

Willy

I kinda thought that until I discovered I Can't Give Everything Away, which is one of his best songs ever imo.  And Lazarus is amazing of course.
There's a bible verse,
says the last one shall be first.
Well, if that verse is true,
there's hope for me and you.
-Kevin Kerby