Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?

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Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?
« on: March 20, 2020, 05:08:02 AM »
It was a Japanese bonus-track released exclusively on vinyl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgmvsRQDH50

As in, Is this is a full length version of the song that was done by the band in studio then at the mixed by the Edge himself? I get the feeling it's a remix done by someone else but I can't back up that theory because I've looked everywhere and there doesn't appear to be any mention of a remixer in the song credits. There are some extra guitar parts in the mix from the 4:40min-7:00 min mark on this version and I wonder if they were put in there by the Edge himself?
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Re: Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2020, 07:32:27 AM »
It was a Japanese bonus-track released exclusively on vinyl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgmvsRQDH50

As in, Is this is a full length version of the song that was done by the band in studio then at the mixed by the Edge himself? I get the feeling it's a remix done by someone else but I can't back up that theory because I've looked everywhere and there doesn't appear to be any mention of a remixer in the song credits. There are some extra guitar parts in the mix from the 4:40min-7:00 min mark on this version and I wonder if they were put in there by the Edge himself?

Is there a way we can block laoghaire from seeing this thread? Or sheíll be here in no time with her scissors  ;D

Crystal Ballroom is my Lemon of the 2010ís and my preferred version is, of course, the 12Ē mix. A version I own on vinyl, from the deluxe edition of SOI. In japan, it was a bonus track on the deluxe CD as well. Over here it was a different track list on the deluxe CD. As for your question, I will answer you with the liner notes in the deluxe vinyl:



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Re: Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2020, 08:20:30 AM »
 :o

Restofit: Were these additional guitar parts played by The Edge himself?

MPare: It was Bono. Look, they gave him a gold star for it and everything. 

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Re: Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2020, 09:17:23 AM »
Egad, yet another song I'm hearing for the first time. I thought I'd diligently tracked them all down. U2, yer killin' me.

This is extremely cool (listening to it via another tab). Can it be purchased, or do you have to be someone special? (iTunes, here I come.)
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Re: Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2020, 05:30:05 PM »
Egad, yet another song I'm hearing for the first time. I thought I'd diligently tracked them all down. U2, yer killin' me.

This is extremely cool (listening to it via another tab). Can it be purchased, or do you have to be someone special? (iTunes, here I come.)

You can buy the standard "loaghaire-friendly" version on iTunes and other services, but the only way to buy the 12" mix is with the deluxe vinyl, or imported Japan CD. It is not sold as a digital track to my knowledge.
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Re: Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2020, 05:35:24 PM »
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Re: Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2020, 05:42:39 PM »
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Re: Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2020, 06:57:42 PM »
Egad, yet another song I'm hearing for the first time. I thought I'd diligently tracked them all down. U2, yer killin' me.

This is extremely cool (listening to it via another tab). Can it be purchased, or do you have to be someone special? (iTunes, here I come.)

You can buy the standard "loaghaire-friendly" version on iTunes and other services, but the only way to buy the 12" mix is with the deluxe vinyl, or imported Japan CD. It is not sold as a digital track to my knowledge.
Thanks. I see a couple versions on iTunes, hopefully hearing this version hasn't already spoiled them for me. :P

And am I safe in assuming there's some long-running joke going on here? :D
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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2020, 07:09:15 PM »
It's not too long running. The pain is still fresh for him.

Basically, I created the Laoghaire Edit of Lemon, identical to the studio but it fades out starting 4:30 through 4:40. Because after 4:30 the song is DONE and it's two and a half minutes of fiddling. In my humble OPINION.

MPare loves 20 minute remixes and was mortally wounded by the brevity I imposed on, and not just any song, but Lemon - a brevity I apparently don't require for myself.

However, Lemon has now turned into a breath of fresh air rather than a 7 minute ball and chain, so I am NOT sorry.

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Re: Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2020, 07:59:12 PM »
It's not too long running. The pain is still fresh for him.

Basically, I created the Laoghaire Edit of Lemon, identical to the studio but it fades out starting 4:30 through 4:40. Because after 4:30 the song is DONE and it's two and a half minutes of fiddling. In my humble OPINION.

MPare loves 20 minute remixes and was mortally wounded by the brevity I imposed on, and not just any song, but Lemon - a brevity I apparently don't require for myself.

However, Lemon has now turned into a breath of fresh air rather than a 7 minute ball and chain, so I am NOT sorry.

1. Iím not mortally wounded, far from it. But I will never forget this. NE-VAH!

2. I donít love 20 minutes remixes. 8 to 10 minutes is the sweet spot.  :P

3. The album version of Lemon is utter perfection and itís blasphemy to trim it.

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Re: Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2020, 08:13:47 PM »
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Re: Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2020, 08:32:12 PM »
It's not too long running. The pain is still fresh for him.

Basically, I created the Laoghaire Edit of Lemon, identical to the studio but it fades out starting 4:30 through 4:40. Because after 4:30 the song is DONE and it's two and a half minutes of fiddling. In my humble OPINION.

MPare loves 20 minute remixes and was mortally wounded by the brevity I imposed on, and not just any song, but Lemon - a brevity I apparently don't require for myself.

However, Lemon has now turned into a breath of fresh air rather than a 7 minute ball and chain, so I am NOT sorry.

1. Iím not mortally wounded, far from it. But I will never forget this. NE-VAH!

2. I donít love 20 minutes remixes. 8 to 10 minutes is the sweet spot.  :P

3. The album version of Lemon is utter perfection and itís blasphemy to trim it.

I agree and am shaking my head.. How could anyone possibly think of trimming the album Lemon? It's faultless in it's unshackled glorious six minutes and fifty eight seconds.

Eno's synths build perfectly to the climax at the end and to cut any of that carefully executed build-up in the middle is a scourge on Eno's work!

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Re: Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2020, 08:51:46 PM »
It was a Japanese bonus-track released exclusively on vinyl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgmvsRQDH50

As in, Is this is a full length version of the song that was done by the band in studio then at the mixed by the Edge himself? I get the feeling it's a remix done by someone else but I can't back up that theory because I've looked everywhere and there doesn't appear to be any mention of a remixer in the song credits. There are some extra guitar parts in the mix from the 4:40min-7:00 min mark on this version and I wonder if they were put in there by the Edge himself?

Is there a way we can block laoghaire from seeing this thread? Or sheíll be here in no time with her scissors  ;D

Crystal Ballroom is my Lemon of the 2010ís and my preferred version is, of course, the 12Ē mix. A version I own on vinyl, from the deluxe edition of SOI. In japan, it was a bonus track on the deluxe CD as well. Over here it was a different track list on the deluxe CD. As for your question, I will answer you with the liner notes in the deluxe vinyl:



I would love to have a gaze at the rest of those linear notes. Is there anywhere you can access them online?

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Re: Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2020, 09:02:46 PM »
It was a Japanese bonus-track released exclusively on vinyl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgmvsRQDH50

As in, Is this is a full length version of the song that was done by the band in studio then at the mixed by the Edge himself? I get the feeling it's a remix done by someone else but I can't back up that theory because I've looked everywhere and there doesn't appear to be any mention of a remixer in the song credits. There are some extra guitar parts in the mix from the 4:40min-7:00 min mark on this version and I wonder if they were put in there by the Edge himself?

Is there a way we can block laoghaire from seeing this thread? Or sheíll be here in no time with her scissors  ;D

Crystal Ballroom is my Lemon of the 2010ís and my preferred version is, of course, the 12Ē mix. A version I own on vinyl, from the deluxe edition of SOI. In japan, it was a bonus track on the deluxe CD as well. Over here it was a different track list on the deluxe CD. As for your question, I will answer you with the liner notes in the deluxe vinyl:



I would love to have a gaze at the rest of those linear notes. Is there anywhere you can access them online?

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Re: Is the crystal ballroom 12" mix a legit U2 track?
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2020, 09:04:50 PM »
It's not too long running. The pain is still fresh for him.

Basically, I created the Laoghaire Edit of Lemon, identical to the studio but it fades out starting 4:30 through 4:40. Because after 4:30 the song is DONE and it's two and a half minutes of fiddling. In my humble OPINION.

MPare loves 20 minute remixes and was mortally wounded by the brevity I imposed on, and not just any song, but Lemon - a brevity I apparently don't require for myself.

However, Lemon has now turned into a breath of fresh air rather than a 7 minute ball and chain, so I am NOT sorry.

1. Iím not mortally wounded, far from it. But I will never forget this. NE-VAH!

2. I donít love 20 minutes remixes. 8 to 10 minutes is the sweet spot.  :P

3. The album version of Lemon is utter perfection and itís blasphemy to trim it.

I agree and am shaking my head.. How could anyone possibly think of trimming the album Lemon? It's faultless in it's unshackled glorious six minutes and fifty eight seconds.

Eno's synths build perfectly to the climax at the end and to cut any of that carefully executed build-up in the middle is a scourge on Eno's work!

Amen Brother!
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