Ryan Tedder

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clarkycat

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Ryan Tedder
« on: November 11, 2017, 05:58:15 AM »
Why did this guy become so important to U2?

Unfortunately, I realise that they're striving to remain relevant in todays music scene and i guess you have to do that to some degree. But, ffs, why ryan tedder? What does he bring to the party?

The fact that Tedder is on board worries me about the musical judgements of bono and the edge, in particular.

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Re: Ryan Tedder
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 06:07:20 AM »
There are so many potentially great collaborators out there and u2 choose this MOR Pop Rock joker....

Quite simply IMO because of how commercially succesful he has been with his vapid Pop Rock.

Look at SoI - Tedder is all over the first half and nowhere to be seen on the 2nd half.....the difference is stark -for me that says it all!
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Re: Ryan Tedder
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 06:24:29 AM »
There are so many potentially great collaborators out there and u2 choose this MOR Pop Rock joker....

Quite simply IMO because of how commercially succesful he has been with his vapid Pop Rock.

Look at SoI - Tedder is all over the first half and nowhere to be seen on the 2nd half.....for me that says it all!
Yep.

I also wonder if jimmy iovine is still a major influence in the U2 camp and he has pushed Tedder in their direction.

I remember bono saying writing song was like, "waiting for god to walk in the room" or something similar. I often wondered if what he really meant to say was that "we're waiting for jimmy iovines approval".
Just a harebrained theory.....

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Re: Ryan Tedder
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2017, 06:30:21 AM »
There are so many potentially great collaborators out there and u2 choose this MOR Pop Rock joker....

Quite simply IMO because of how commercially succesful he has been with his vapid Pop Rock.

Look at SoI - Tedder is all over the first half and nowhere to be seen on the 2nd half.....the difference is stark -for me that says it all!
Yes. 2nd half of SoI is significantly better.

Just noticed on the liner notes to gooyow that Tedder sings backing vocals. Seems like he's near the inner sanctum these days...

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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2017, 08:52:13 AM »
The involvement of people like Tedder and whoever, disturbs me greatly. We will NEVER get another classic u2 album with the likes of them on board................NEVER!!!!!

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Re: Ryan Tedder
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2017, 01:20:23 PM »
Yeah I’d love to hear a U2 album with no modern producers - bring in Tom morello !


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Re: Ryan Tedder
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 01:50:52 PM »
Going off of Sleep Like A Baby Tonight and The Troubles, I'm convinced SOI could have been at the very least a very respectable, solid album. It isn't a coincidence that the album's two greatest songs are the ones left untainted by Tedder's influence.

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Re: Ryan Tedder
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 08:23:52 PM »
Whatever...Preacher, I lived, and I feel Again were great from their last album and they have plenty other touching songs as well. Tedder has just been a better writer than U2 in some respects over the last album. Now Moment of Surrender and Unknown Caller are in the same spiritual vain as Tedder.


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Re: Ryan Tedder
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 09:41:14 PM »
The involvement of people like Tedder and whoever, disturbs me greatly. We will NEVER get another classic u2 album with the likes of them on board................NEVER!!!!!

Without Ryan Tedder we wouldn't have such U2 classics as The Miracle (of Joey Ramone) and Song for Someone.

All kidding aside, I don't think it's that big a deal that he works with U2. As Bono even said in a Q Magazine interview after the release of SOI: 'the popsters are beating us'.  So I guess if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. I think the band is just trying to find any way they can to connect with a younger audience...after all, no generation or age group 'owns' U2.

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Q magazine about Tedder’s presence on the credits for ‘Songs Of Innocence’, U2’s Bono explained that he was brought in for his gift for melody.

Bono said: “The popsters are beating the others on melody. Not in lyrics, not in their aesthetic, but they’re writing better tunes. That was not the case with The Beatles and the Stones. The Beatles were writing better tunes than the popsters and not compromising on their lyrics and their aesthetic. When Brian Burton [Danger Mouse] ran out of time to work with us – and he’s by far the biggest presence on the album as a producer – we got to work with Paul Epworth, we got to work with Ryan Tedder. Their only interest is in melody that you haven’t heard before and the uniqueness of it. So that changed the game for us.”

http://www.nme.com/news/music/u2-98-1244075
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Re: Ryan Tedder
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2017, 09:52:13 PM »
Oh no gen x  owns U2lol
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Re: Ryan Tedder
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2017, 11:09:41 PM »
Tedder has been lucky in that artists that work with him have at least one hit. SFS was kinda successful but the mass public dismissed it because the rest of the world really doesnt care about new u2 stuff.

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Re: Ryan Tedder
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2017, 03:13:06 AM »
My 7 yr old girl did a video of herself and 2 friends singing a One Republic song a few weeks ago.

This is who U2 use now. The guy who appeals to 7 yr olds. Unf'nbelievable 
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Re: Ryan Tedder
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2017, 04:41:44 AM »
"I can help you but it's your fight."

Of course U2 are trying to connect with today's youth, Bono especially wants the younger generation to stand up and fight, use music to change the world. There's so much apathy and consumerism these days, it must absolutely kill the band inside considering what they grew up with in the 1970's and 1980's. So they're trying to reach the unreachable with catchy melodies and hooks. The Edge made it pretty clear recently when he said they could easily whip an album out for the fans, but that's not what they want to do. Songs of Experience, for kids who will listen.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love more The Troubles or Achtung Baby. But I understand where the band's at today.

So Cruel, so you don't want your 7 yr old listening to U2? I don't get the impression she'd enjoy Fez (Being Born). ;)
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The Edge: “[Eno] would love to see us making albums a bit more like [Zooropa]. Where we go, ‘You know what? We’re not going to second-guess any of this. Let’s just go for it.’”

We'd all love to see that, Edge.

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Re: Ryan Tedder
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2017, 05:52:53 AM »
McGuiness once said that U2 needs to be continually refreshing their audience with the next generation. That’s how timeless legacies are built and business thrives. Call it relevance or whatever, but older people screaming that they aren’t getting the same old formula is the antitheses of the McGuiness business model. Few 45 year olds are sitting around waiting for the next Achtung Baby or Pop. Let it go. Tedder is a hit maker. As long as U2 keep their soul in the process, I️ welcome it.


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Ryan Tedder
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2017, 05:55:47 AM »
My 7 yr old girl did a video of herself and 2 friends singing a One Republic song a few weeks ago.

This is who U2 use now. The guy who appeals to 7 yr olds. Unf'nbelievable
I️ distinctively remember being 7 yrs old singing to “I️ will Follow” - your attitude might suggests we can’t learn anything new from the next generation.


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