I am a Satanist. AMA

OK, so I have posted about religion a fair bit on here, so it's time for me to - as An Tha says - shut up and show us yer willy.

OK, so here is my religion: I am a satanist. In the beginning, the serpent told Eve "If you eat from the tree, your eyes will be opened and you shall become like God, with the knowledge of good and bad. I couldn't agree more. Freed from the confines of mainstream religious thought, which glorifies war, makes a man worth more than a woman, a straight person better than a gay person and faith better than reason, one comes to the inevitable conclusion that morality isn't defined by the pages of a book - much less any book written thousands of years ago - it is innate. For a Satanist, repentance is not a valid moral concept. You cannot murder someone, then repent and be granted penitence. The victim of your crime gets no heavenly reward. Your crime is permanent. For a Satanist, war is never justified by post-death rationalizations. Satan in the Bible is the voice of opposition to a totalitarian regime expressed best by the ten commandments. The first and second commandments forbid freedom of religion. The third forbids most art. The fourth is a cover for enforced tithing - the mandatory sacrifice to a priesthood of 10% of your earnings every sunday. The fifth demands allegience to even the most frightful of parents. Thou shalt not kill is innate. We do not need a moral code of conduct to tell us this - especially one that then goes on to tell us all the reasons to kill. The tenth commandment forbids thoughts. Specifically it forbids males (because females were not free moral agents) from coveting the things owned by rich landowning or levitical neighbors, including their slaves, their land, homes, animals or women - all equally considered property.

In this environment, the voice of opposition - Satan - which is hebrew for "resister" is the voice of reason. The freedom fighter.   

I am a Satanist. Ask me anything.

Do you have orgies like in the movie eyes wide shut?


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What type of Satanist, Luciferian, LaVeyan, theistic or other?

Do you have orgies like in the movie eyes wide shut?


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Yes, but not because I am a satanist 

Ok, no. I've never had an orgy. Wait. Define orgy. 

What type of Satanist, Luciferian, LaVeyan, theistic or other?

LaVeyan, though I like elements of luciferianism. The word Lucifer means "Light" in akkadian, and the old testament writers used it (only once I believe) as a proper noun, entirely misunderstanding the significance of the word that they associated with Darkness. The New Testament authors, however, understood the significance (despite being illiterate fishermen  ) and claimed the devil "transformed himself into an angel of light"

The key difference between the strands of satanism are unimportant since both reject doctrine, fundamentalism and any form of divine oversight. Luciferians - in theory - believe Satan is a real angel of light, attempting to protect humans from the darkness of religion. However, I doubt many actually accept that interpretation. Most are, in reality, atheists who understand the Bible inside and out and understand the reasons for the literary creation of Satan. 

Are you an actual satanist? Or do you just feel like your the opposite of what a Christian is? and do you have priest or wise men that teach the theology ?


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Quote from: financeguy on November 24, 2019, 08:02:22 PM

What type of Satanist, Luciferian, LaVeyan, theistic or other?

LaVeyan, though I like elements of luciferianism. The word Lucifer means "Light" in akkadian, and the old testament writers used it (only once I believe) as a proper noun, entirely misunderstanding the significance of the word that they associated with Darkness. The New Testament authors, however, understood the significance (despite being illiterate fishermen  ) and claimed the devil "transformed himself into an angel of light"

The key difference between the strands of satanism are unimportant since both reject doctrine, fundamentalism and any form of divine oversight. Luciferians - in theory - believe Satan is a real angel of light, attempting to protect humans from the darkness of religion. However, I doubt many actually accept that interpretation. Most are, in reality, atheists who understand the Bible inside and out and understand the reasons for the literary creation of Satan.

Call it what you want Codeguy, but in my view you’re just another humanist scumbag like myself. 

Are you an actual satanist? Or do you just feel like your the opposite of what a Christian is? and do you have priest or wise men that teach the theology ?


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Satanists mostly reject formal wisdom and theology. "Opposite" of a christian? No. Much of the good stuff in Christianity is not original (Jesus was not the first person to say "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" for instance) and there is no real way to be the opposite of something from a moral perspective.

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What type of Satanist, Luciferian, LaVeyan, theistic or other?

LaVeyan, though I like elements of luciferianism. The word Lucifer means "Light" in akkadian, and the old testament writers used it (only once I believe) as a proper noun, entirely misunderstanding the significance of the word that they associated with Darkness. The New Testament authors, however, understood the significance (despite being illiterate fishermen  ) and claimed the devil "transformed himself into an angel of light"

The key difference between the strands of satanism are unimportant since both reject doctrine, fundamentalism and any form of divine oversight. Luciferians - in theory - believe Satan is a real angel of light, attempting to protect humans from the darkness of religion. However, I doubt many actually accept that interpretation. Most are, in reality, atheists who understand the Bible inside and out and understand the reasons for the literary creation of Satan.

Call it what you want Codeguy, but in my view you’re just another humanist scumbag like myself. 

True. The only difference between humanists and Satanists is the rational textual analysis of the old testament and the realization that the literary creation of Satan was designed by rabbi's (with massive influence from Greek and Persian sources like paganism and Zoroastrianism) to suppress free thought, and thus its perpetuation in the major monotheistic religions is a toxic manifestation of ancient power structures.

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What type of Satanist, Luciferian, LaVeyan, theistic or other?

LaVeyan, though I like elements of luciferianism. The word Lucifer means "Light" in akkadian, and the old testament writers used it (only once I believe) as a proper noun, entirely misunderstanding the significance of the word that they associated with Darkness. The New Testament authors, however, understood the significance (despite being illiterate fishermen  ) and claimed the devil "transformed himself into an angel of light"

The key difference between the strands of satanism are unimportant since both reject doctrine, fundamentalism and any form of divine oversight. Luciferians - in theory - believe Satan is a real angel of light, attempting to protect humans from the darkness of religion. However, I doubt many actually accept that interpretation. Most are, in reality, atheists who understand the Bible inside and out and understand the reasons for the literary creation of Satan.

Call it what you want Codeguy, but in my view you’re just another humanist scumbag like myself. 

True. The only difference between humanists and Satanists is the rational textual analysis of the old testament and the realization that the literary creation of Satan was designed by rabbi's (with massive influence from Greek and Persian sources like paganism and Zoroastrianism) to suppress free thought, and thus its perpetuation in the major monotheistic religions is a toxic manifestation of ancient power structures.

I often think of the old testament as the original comic book. Something in the likes of Watchmen. 

You said you grew up in a cult when you were younger? I’m assuming it’s not your current viewpoint.  Maybe a reaction to it?


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Correct

I've been trying to figure out how I wanted to respond to this thread. My father was a very smart man, and he told me to NEVER discuss religion or politics. I think I'll stick with that. But, I will say...Satan doesn't scare me. 

I've been trying to figure out how I wanted to respond to this thread. My father was a very smart man, and he told me to NEVER discuss religion or politics. I think I'll stick with that. But, I will say...Satan doesn't scare me. 

Satan loves a bomb scare


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Quote from: riffraff on November 25, 2019, 08:41:17 AM

I've been trying to figure out how I wanted to respond to this thread. My father was a very smart man, and he told me to NEVER discuss religion or politics. I think I'll stick with that. But, I will say...Satan doesn't scare me. 

Satan loves a bomb scare


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He sure does! But, I'm still not scared...