BREAKING NEWS about the old forum

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BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« on: October 14, 2017, 04:45:32 PM »
Singnomore just described the hiatus as a "holiday"! I kind of like this one a little more though.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2017, 04:52:41 PM »
I'd hate it if the other forum shuts down permanently, since I do have fond memories of it.

Regardless of what happens with the other forum, this one is here to stay as an alternative.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2017, 04:53:38 PM »
I'd hate it if the other forum shuts down permanently, since I do have fond memories of it.

Regardless of what happens with the other forum, this one is here to stay as an alternative.
Yeah, even if atu2 comes back I will probably stay on this one and have an active account on both forums!
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Re: BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2017, 04:54:54 PM »
I'd hate it if the other forum shuts down permanently, since I do have fond memories of it.

Regardless of what happens with the other forum, this one is here to stay as an alternative.
Yeah, even if atu2 comes back I will probably stay on this one and have an active account on both forums!

Nothing wrong with that! I have an account on other forums just to pop in from time to time and see if I've missed anything.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2017, 04:57:07 PM »
I'd hate it if the other forum shuts down permanently, since I do have fond memories of it.

Regardless of what happens with the other forum, this one is here to stay as an alternative.
Yeah, even if atu2 comes back I will probably stay on this one and have an active account on both forums!

Nothing wrong with that! I have an account on other forums just to pop in from time to time and see if I've missed anything.
Great!
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Re: BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2017, 07:40:36 PM »
Yes, I'll happily visit both forums regularly if atU2 does return. I'm so pleased about this new forum though! :)

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Re: BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2017, 10:19:08 PM »
I wonder if the @U2 mods' knowledge of this new place will at all influence whether or not the forum returns over there. We are talking about many dedicated posters potentially leaving for a new home, some of those to here and others to Interference.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2017, 11:07:30 PM »
I wonder if the @U2 mods' knowledge of this new place will at all influence whether or not the forum returns over there. We are talking about many dedicated posters potentially leaving for a new home, some of those to here and others to Interference.

I am curious to see what happens. It seems like they (understandably so) are a bit burnt out on the moderating experience. Things got really crazy over on @U2 around election-time last year and right after. Dozens and dozens of posts and a lot of nastiness. That's why the real world forum was removed--people couldn't play nice and so that ruined the experience for everyone else.

Then the forum was shifted from very loose moderation (last Fall there was political posts nonstop, a lot of anti-Clinton people who kept bringing up her association with U2...these were all allowed for a while) to very strict moderation. People would get banned temporarily for any political mentions whatsoever, even those that were quite vague. Which is, again, understandable since the mods wanted to clean things up and keep a nice environment for everyone.

Anyway, if I had to guess, I would think that the mods are feeling like they can't win. They get asked to clamp down on the nastiness by people who are fed up with political posts and personal attacks, so they do clamp down on it, but the rules are too vague and people fear being banned. That leads to the current predicament where I'm guessing they are re-evaluating things and whether or not they want to deal with pleasing the people who want a cleaner experience while not making people feel too restricted.

I believe we can all civilly discuss just about any topic here (politics included) as adults and people shouldn't fear getting banned. We haven't sat down and figured out the official forum rules yet, but one thing I can promise: it won't be as, ahem, nasty as Interference can get and it won't be as restrictive as @U2. We're striving for a balance so that, if @u2 returns, people have a third option between too restrictive and too loose.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2017, 11:52:19 PM »
I wonder if the @U2 mods' knowledge of this new place will at all influence whether or not the forum returns over there. We are talking about many dedicated posters potentially leaving for a new home, some of those to here and others to Interference.

I am curious to see what happens. It seems like they (understandably so) are a bit burnt out on the moderating experience. Things got really crazy over on @U2 around election-time last year and right after. Dozens and dozens of posts and a lot of nastiness. That's why the real world forum was removed--people couldn't play nice and so that ruined the experience for everyone else.

Then the forum was shifted from very loose moderation (last Fall there was political posts nonstop, a lot of anti-Clinton people who kept bringing up her association with U2...these were all allowed for a while) to very strict moderation. People would get banned temporarily for any political mentions whatsoever, even those that were quite vague. Which is, again, understandable since the mods wanted to clean things up and keep a nice environment for everyone.

Anyway, if I had to guess, I would think that the mods are feeling like they can't win. They get asked to clamp down on the nastiness by people who are fed up with political posts and personal attacks, so they do clamp down on it, but the rules are too vague and people fear being banned. That leads to the current predicament where I'm guessing they are re-evaluating things and whether or not they want to deal with pleasing the people who want a cleaner experience while not making people feel too restricted.

I believe we can all civilly discuss just about any topic here (politics included) as adults and people shouldn't fear getting banned. We haven't sat down and figured out the official forum rules yet, but one thing I can promise: it won't be as, ahem, nasty as Interference can get and it won't be as restrictive as @U2. We're striving for a balance so that, if @u2 returns, people have a third option between too restrictive and too loose.

I'm all for finding a happy-medium. I was fortunate enough to never received a ban on @U2 despite having semi-involvement in the political discussion during last year's election and generally being pretty gung-ho when sharing my opinion. Despite that, I always felt the threat of a ban looming over my head, which made for an uncomfortable environment.

I don't blame the moderators over there for shutting down the forum, temporarily or not. Things have escalated to point where sharing your opinion almost feels discouraged.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2017, 07:24:35 AM »
I have been on a few U2 forums as well as other band/artist forums and I will say (I've mentioned this to a few people in the past over there) atu2 (in my opinion) at what some considered "their worst" was extremely tame in terms of actual/perceived negative comments between posters.  Short of blatant death threats / voodoo curses /threats of bodily harm...anything goes on some sites.  Being someone who values free speech, is up for a thought provoking discussion/debate and understands it it differing view/opinions/experiences which shape all of us and make the world go round, I'm fine with a little "hostility" if it is relevant to discussion and not threatening or personally demeaning.

That said, I've never been a forum mod so can't imagine the time and energy it can take to wade through that shite ...so hats off to those doing the job here and thank you.

It's exciting to be here!

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Re: BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2017, 09:48:39 AM »
I have been on a few U2 forums as well as other band/artist forums and I will say (I've mentioned this to a few people in the past over there) atu2 (in my opinion) at what some considered "their worst" was extremely tame in terms of actual/perceived negative comments between posters.  Short of blatant death threats / voodoo curses /threats of bodily harm...anything goes on some sites.  Being someone who values free speech, is up for a thought provoking discussion/debate and understands it it differing view/opinions/experiences which shape all of us and make the world go round, I'm fine with a little "hostility" if it is relevant to discussion and not threatening or personally demeaning.

That said, I've never been a forum mod so can't imagine the time and energy it can take to wade through that shite ...so hats off to those doing the job here and thank you.

It's exciting to be here!
Voodoo curses?!?
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Re: BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2017, 09:51:45 AM »
If the atu2 mods would care to take a look at one of my fave bands (James) official fan site, they would see the REAL definition of nastyness. The band themselves dont believe in moderation, the end result was, a lot of hostile and really vile posts were made, which resulted in many of the real good folks leave the forum and start their own fan pages on FB etc.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2017, 07:17:34 PM »
I've lurked on the other forum, ATU2, but there's no way I'll join now, if it does come back. The world can be nasty, deal with it.

Wouldn't it be ironic if by banning certain members they end up causing the creation of atu2's replacement?

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Re: BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2017, 09:13:09 PM »
If the atu2 mods would care to take a look at one of my fave bands (James) official fan site, they would see the REAL definition of nastyness. The band themselves dont believe in moderation, the end result was, a lot of hostile and really vile posts were made, which resulted in many of the real good folks leave the forum and start their own fan pages on FB etc.
Same on a Prince site I used to frequent for years. It could get pretty rough while he was alive; insanity when he died.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS about the old forum
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2017, 10:22:54 PM »
If the atu2 mods would care to take a look at one of my fave bands (James) official fan site, they would see the REAL definition of nastyness. The band themselves dont believe in moderation, the end result was, a lot of hostile and really vile posts were made, which resulted in many of the real good folks leave the forum and start their own fan pages on FB etc.
Same on a Prince site I used to frequent for years. It could get pretty rough while he was alive; insanity when he died.

I hadn't ever considered the effect that an inevitable bandmate's death would put on the forum...